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# [2607.12395] Ring-Zero: Scaling Zero RL to a Trillion Parameters for Emergent Reasoning

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## Summary

Ring-Zero is a research paper presenting a trillion-parameter model trained using zero RL (reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards, no human-annotated data) to study emergent reasoning at scale. The authors identify problems with naive scaling — poor readability, token redundancy, and shallow reasoning — and address them with a stable training pipeline using clipped importance sampling, training-inference ratio correction, and mixed-precision control. Key findings confirm the 'bitter lesson' of scaling: 1T parameters improve sample efficiency and performance ceilings, training progresses through discovery then sharpening phases, and the model spontaneously develops advanced behaviors like self-verification, parallel reasoning, and structured formatting without hand-crafted heuristics. Evaluated on seven math benchmarks, Ring-2.5-1T-Zero achieves competitive results. A new CoT quality evaluation framework across comprehensibility, reproducibility, and efficiency dimensions is also proposed.

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