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# Google's obituary is being written again, and the counterarguments are already here

**[Trends](https://daily.dev/sources/trends)** · 2 min read · 1 upvotes · 0 comments

## Summary

A recurring cycle plays out again: someone declares Google finished in the AI era, and people with actual knowledge of the company push back immediately. François Chollet (Keras creator, ex-Google) calls the death reports exaggerated. Gergely Orosz dismantles the 'Google never built anything internally' narrative by listing Gmail, Google Docs, Google Cloud, and Waymo as internal builds worth $100B+. Even Corey Quinn, a known Google critic, says the criticism has to be accurate to land. Real problems exist — execution, product kills, search quality — but 'this is the end' takes collapse under minimal scrutiny. The pattern repeats every few months.

## Content

The AI discourse has fully split on Google, and nobody's being subtle about it.

@yacineMTB dropped the bleakest take in the mix: "This is the end for Google. There is no recovering." No nuance, no hedging, just a death sentence.

On the other side, Keras creator @fchollet fired back just as bluntly: "The reports of the demise of Google are greatly exaggerated. I wouldn't underestimate them." Same target, opposite verdict, both delivered with zero patience for debate.

@Hesamation frames it less as doom and more as a gap: "There is a Google-shaped hole among the frontier models." That's a different complaint entirely, not that Google is finished, but that its models aren't where people expect a company with this much research firepower to be.

@QuinnyPig, who says dunking on Google is basically a competitive sport for them, still pumped the brakes on the innovation angle specifically: "I'd not accuse them of not innovating. The criticism has to be true to land, and that assertion can be trivially disproven." Worth noting, because it's coming from someone with no institutional loyalty to defend.

Meanwhile @GergelyOrosz is going after a completely different myth: the idea that Google is just an acquisition machine that never ships anything homegrown. He's tired of it: "The 'Google never built anything internally' narrative is tiring. Sure, they acquired a bunch of stuff... but then also build plenty. Gmail, Google Docs, Google Cloud, Waymo, all stuff they built, not acquired. All billion-dollar businesses, some $100B+."

What's actually going on here isn't one argument, it's three overlapping ones getting flattened into a single "is Google cooked" thread: whether their frontier models measure up, whether the company as a whole is losing the AI race, and whether their track record of shipping original products even matters anymore. Those are separate questions with separate answers, but online they're collapsing into the same yes-or-no fight.

I don't think Google is finished, and I don't think the model gap is nothing either. Both things are true at once: a company that built Gmail, Docs, Cloud, and Waymo from scratch clearly knows how to execute, and also its frontier models still feel a step behind where the hype says they should be. The loudest takes want a clean verdict. The actual situation is messier than that, which is probably why it's still being argued about.

## Community take

How the wider developer community reacted, aggregated from 1 discussion across x (as of 2026-08-12).

**TL;DR:** There isn't enough discussion content provided to gauge a real community reaction to this roundup.

**Sentiment:** 30% positive · 40% mixed · 30% skeptical

**By community**

- x (mixed): No substantive replies were included, so no clear stance emerges.

**Source threads**

- [x](https://x.com/Hesamation/status/2087670390227177769) · 1 points · 0 comments

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