--- title: How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better... description: The post discusses the latest open LLM releases including Mixtral 8x22B, Llama 3, Phi-3, and OpenELM. It also compares the performance of Mixtral 8x22B to... canonical: https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:site: @dailydotdev og:type: website og:site_name: daily.dev og:title: How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO? | daily.dev og:description: The post discusses the latest open LLM releases including Mixtral 8x22B, Llama 3, Phi-3, and OpenELM. It also compares the performance of Mixtral 8x22B to... og:url: https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw og:image: https://api.daily.dev/og/posts/XexOypkFW.png og:image:alt: How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO? og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 630 og:locale: en --- > ## Documentation Index > Fetch the complete documentation index at: https://daily.dev/llms.txt > Use this file to discover all available pages before exploring further. # How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO? **[Substack](https://daily.dev/sources/substack)** · 24 min read · 4 upvotes · 0 comments ## Summary The post discusses the latest open LLM releases including Mixtral 8x22B, Llama 3, Phi-3, and OpenELM. It also compares the performance of Mixtral 8x22B to other LLMs and explores the training data size for Llama 3. Additionally, it provides a comprehensive study on whether DPO is superior to PPO for LLM alignment. ## Full article daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. Read it at the original source: --- Tags: [#llm](https://daily.dev/tags/llm), [#reinforcement-learning](https://daily.dev/tags/reinforcement-learning) [View this post on daily.dev](https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw) ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https://daily.dev/#organization","name":"daily.dev","url":"https://daily.dev","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://daily.dev/apple-touch-icon.png","width":180,"height":180},"sameAs":["https://twitter.com/dailydotdev","https://github.com/dailydotdev","https://www.linkedin.com/company/daily-dev-ltd"]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https://daily.dev/#website","url":"https://daily.dev","name":"daily.dev","publisher":{"@id":"https://daily.dev/#organization"},"potentialAction":{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https://daily.dev/search?q={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}}]} {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"TechArticle","headline":"How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO?","url":"https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw"},"datePublished":"2024-05-12T16:23:00.450Z","dateModified":"2024-05-12T16:22:57.305Z","description":"The post discusses the latest open LLM releases including Mixtral 8x22B, Llama 3, Phi-3, and OpenELM. It also compares the performance of Mixtral 8x22B to...","image":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/posts/94d2ea27ec8685b65db61005f57e2172?_a=AQAEuiZ","thumbnailUrl":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/posts/94d2ea27ec8685b65db61005f57e2172?_a=AQAEuiZ","isAccessibleForFree":true,"articleSection":"Substack","inLanguage":"en","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"daily.dev","url":"https://daily.dev","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://daily.dev/apple-touch-icon.png","width":180,"height":180}},"author":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Substack","logo":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/s--KFqxX_OL--/f_auto,t_logo/v1698154293/logos/substack.jpg","url":"https://daily.dev/sources/substack"},"commentCount":0,"discussionUrl":"https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw","interactionStatistic":[{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"LikeAction"},"userInteractionCount":4},{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"CommentAction"},"userInteractionCount":0}],"keywords":"llm,reinforcement-learning","timeRequired":"PT24M"} {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"BreadcrumbList","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https://daily.dev"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Substack","item":"https://daily.dev/sources/substack"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":3,"name":"How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO?"}]} ```