--- title: "How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO?" url: https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw source_url: https://magazine.sebastianraschka.com/p/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms type: article source: "Substack" published: 2024-05-12T16:23:00.450Z updated: 2024-05-12T16:22:57.305Z tags: ["llm", "reinforcement-learning"] reading_time: 24 upvotes: 4 comments: 0 language: en --- > ## Documentation Index > Fetch the complete documentation index at: https://daily.dev/llms.txt > Use this file to discover all available pages before exploring further. # How Good Are the Latest Open LLMs? And Is DPO Better Than PPO? **[Substack](https://daily.dev/sources/substack)** · 24 min read · 4 upvotes · 0 comments ## Summary The post discusses the latest open LLM releases including Mixtral 8x22B, Llama 3, Phi-3, and OpenELM. It also compares the performance of Mixtral 8x22B to other LLMs and explores the training data size for Llama 3. Additionally, it provides a comprehensive study on whether DPO is superior to PPO for LLM alignment. ## Full article daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. Read it at the original source: ## Similar posts on daily.dev - [Don’t just attend KubeCon \+ CloudNativeCon, Merge Forward your experience\!](https://daily.dev/posts/don-t-just-attend-kubecon-cloudnativecon-merge-forward-your-experience--l0rpp73x8) · CNCF · 0 upvotes · 0 comments - [Announcing H2 2026 KCDs](https://daily.dev/posts/announcing-h2-2026-kcds-m96goajm1) · CNCF · 1 upvotes · 0 comments - [Two months of Open Community Groups](https://daily.dev/posts/two-months-of-open-community-groups-asf52zhbs) · CNCF · 0 upvotes · 0 comments --- Tags: [#llm](https://daily.dev/tags/llm), [#reinforcement-learning](https://daily.dev/tags/reinforcement-learning) [View this post on daily.dev](https://daily.dev/posts/how-good-are-the-latest-open-llms-and-is-dpo-better-than-ppo--xexoypkfw)