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# MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR Display and Touch

**[Hacker News](https://daily.dev/sources/hn)** · 9 min read · 0 upvotes · 0 comments

## Summary

Apple's new MacBook Pro introduces a PROLED XDR display, a tandem OLED panel with Touch support. It hits up to 2000 nits peak HDR and SDR brightness, a 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio, and covers both P3 and Adobe RGB. The laptop ships with M5 Pro or M5 Max chips, offers up to 16TB storage, and claims up to 24 hours of battery life. The 14-inch model weighs 3.0 pounds and the 16-inch weighs 4.0 pounds. Pricing starts at $2899 or $241.58/month for 12 months.

## Full article

daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. Read it at the original source: <https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/proled-xdr-display>

## Questions this post answers

### What are the specs of the PROLED XDR display on the new MacBook Pro?

The PROLED XDR display is a tandem OLED panel offering up to 2000 nits peak HDR and SDR brightness, a 10,000,000:1 contrast ratio, and a wide color gamut covering both P3 and Adobe RGB. It also includes a built-in Touch sensor integrated directly into the display panel for low-latency touch interaction.

_Developers evaluating pro displays for color-critical work can track hardware specs like this on daily.dev._

### What chips does the MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR Display use and how much storage does it support?

It ships with either the M5 Pro or M5 Max chip, each featuring a GPU with enhanced shader cores and a third-generation ray-tracing engine. Storage is configurable up to 16TB and is up to twice as fast as before, with faster unified memory for both chip options.

_Anyone comparing Apple silicon options before buying can follow chip and storage updates on daily.dev._

### How much does the new MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR Display cost and what battery life does it offer?

Pricing starts from $2899, or $241.58 per month over 12 months, with a lease option from $55.99 per month over 36 months through Apple Upgrade. It delivers up to 24 hours of battery life, with the same performance whether plugged in or running on battery.

_Developers budgeting for new hardware can keep tabs on pricing and specs changes via daily.dev._

## Community take

How the wider developer community reacted, aggregated from 1 discussion and 452 comments across hackernews (as of 2026-10-29).

**TL;DR:** Discussion is dominated almost entirely by skepticism toward the new touch feature, with many recalling Steve Jobs' old anti-touchscreen stance and arguing it's ergonomically awkward on a vertical laptop screen; a smaller group finds niche value for drawing, scrolling, or accessibility.

**Sentiment:** 20% positive · 25% mixed · 55% skeptical

**The case for**

- Some find touch useful for quick taps, scrolling on a couch/lap, or dismissing dialogs without reaching for a trackpad.
- Stylus/pen-paired touch is valued for diagramming, note-taking, and drawing by instructors and designers.
- A few argue kids and non-technical users intuitively expect and benefit from touch interfaces.
- Useful for testing touch gestures/mobile app development without needing a physical device.

**The pushback**

- Many say touch causes smudges and fingerprints they actively try to avoid.
- Vertical screen position makes sustained touch use ergonomically tiring ('gorilla arm'), echoing Steve Jobs' original objection.
- Several note they always disable touchscreens on other laptops and never missed the feature.
- The lack of a 360-degree/tablet-mode hinge undermines the main benefit touch would provide on 2-in-1 devices.
- Marketing demos (piano keys, DJ-style interactions) are seen as impractical and unconvincing skeuomorphism.

**By community**

- hackernews (skeptical): Most commenters doubt the practical value of touch on a traditional clamshell laptop, citing ergonomics, smudging, and unconvincing marketing demos, though a vocal minority describes genuine niche use cases.

**Hottest debate:** Whether touch is a meaningful upgrade or a gimmick given the laptop's lack of a foldable/tablet hinge, with strong disagreement over real-world usefulness versus accidental/annoying interaction.

**Open questions**

- Why didn't Apple include a 360-degree hinge or tablet mode to make touch genuinely useful like competing 2-in-1 devices?
- Will Apple eventually merge macOS and iPadOS or release a macOS tablet now that touch support exists?
- Is better screen coating included to handle the inevitable smudging from touch use?

**Highlights**

> Oh how far we've come. Steve Jobs in 2010 stated [1]: > Steve Jobs told a crowd at an Apple event in 2010 that the company did “tons of user testing” on putting touchscreens on MacBooks and decided against it because, he said, “It doesn’t work. It’s ergonomically terrible.” > While previewing Mac OS X Lion in 2010, Jobs explained the main issue was comfort, saying, “After a short period of time, you start to fatigue, and after an extended period of time, your arm wants to fall off.” Design is the art of compromise. A laptop works. Physical keyboards are better than onscreen keyboards. Laptops with detachable tablets end up with a heavier screen so the base has to be heavier so it doesn't tip over. I honestly don't know what the use case for touchscreen Macbooks really is. OLED? Sure. Why not? But touch? Who is this for? [1]: https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/steve-jobs-said-a-touchs...
> — [jmyeet on hackernews · 2 comments](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50277905)

> As a primary mode of use: oh hell no, it's awful.  It's too far away from your hands, the ergonomics suck. As an occasional "pinch to zoom that thing centered on my fingers, and adjust it to show what I want to someone 10 feet away" tool: it's fantastic.  I could learn the key combo, but "use two fingers" is dramatically easier to remember and control. Or to guide someone through something on screen, you can just tap it rather than having them mouse to precisely the control you meant.  (yes this is often a terrible idea for teaching, but not everyone has fine motor control and sometimes there's random interruptions from other software - having them push those away can make it harder for them to learn/remember the actual goal) Or for signing your name on a document, or anything else even slightly related to drawing. Or if it's propped up on your chest in bed and your hands are naturally more comfortable on the screen than the keyboard (which is far too close). Or if it's dark or you're at a low angle and can't read the keys. It doesn't cost much, doesn't influence the display much, and is very useful occasionally.  A great hardware feature to have IMO.
> — [Groxx on hackernews · 1 comments](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50278326)

> Their demo example for the touch interface is piano keys? That's a 2010 Scott Forstall level of skeuomorphism that doesn't translate well for a laptop screen because it's not convenient.
> — [minimaxir on hackernews · 7 comments](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50277070)

> These comments are LLM-tier now, if not LLM-generated already. """ Does anyone actually use <the new feature>? I personally prefer <the status quo> and don't think I ever have a need for <the new feature>. Also, I don't like <some drawback that comes with adopting the new feature>. But that's just me, I'm a simple guy, like and subscribe! """
> — [moralestapia on hackernews](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50278612)

> I use it constantly. No one actually holds their hands up to the screen for extended periods of time. But touching the screen to click a button can be more efficient than tabbing or mousing to it. Especially if the laptop is on your lap. Scrolling through long docs is also comfortable with touch if it’s on your lap or a flat surface directly in front of you. You scroll with the thumb while your hand/arm rests comfortably.
> — [dpark on hackernews](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50279171)

**Source threads**

- [hackernews](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50276940) · 239 points · 452 comments

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