--- title: Just fucking use HTML | daily.dev description: The post advocates for using plain HTML instead of complex frameworks that often become bloated and unreliable. It emphasizes the simplicity and efficiency of... canonical: https://daily.dev/posts/nfbblnxfs twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:site: @dailydotdev og:type: website og:site_name: daily.dev og:title: Just fucking use HTML | daily.dev og:description: The post advocates for using plain HTML instead of complex frameworks that often become bloated and unreliable. It emphasizes the simplicity and efficiency of... og:url: https://daily.dev/posts/nfbblnxfs og:image: https://api.daily.dev/og/posts/nFBblNXFs.png og:image:alt: Post cover image og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 630 og:locale: en --- > ## Documentation Index > Fetch the complete documentation index at: https://daily.dev/llms.txt > Use this file to discover all available pages before exploring further. # Just fucking use HTML **[htmx ](https://daily.dev/sources/htmxorg)** · [@simon125q](https://daily.dev/simon125q) · 549 upvotes · 64 comments ## Summary The post advocates for using plain HTML instead of complex frameworks that often become bloated and unreliable. It emphasizes the simplicity and efficiency of HTML, detailing its timeless reliability and the unnecessary complexity introduced by modern frameworks. The message encourages readers to stick with HTML for its speed and ease of use. ## Full article daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. Read it at the original source: ## Community discussion Top comments from developers on daily.dev. **@muffinisamuffin** · 78 upvotes > This just reminds me of the glorious ancestor of this website. The real [mother ducking website](https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/). **@petermrozek** · 18 upvotes > I agree with the overall message of not overcomplicating things. > > That being said, that automatic variable creation got me. I've never actually read too much into the documentation of the `id` attribute. The very same documentation discourages from using the `id` value as a global variable, as the web APIs might in the future overshadow the variable (APIs have precedence over variables automatically derived from the `id` values), so the safest methods are the ones most known: `document.getElementById(...)` and `document.querySelector(...)`. **@rlaycock** · 13 upvotes > So much anger in one post. > > I gave up reading as I could feel myself getting wound up. > > Just a tip for the author, stop the swearing, it makes you sound like a teenager who just discovered the F word. > > I agree with the sentiment on using HTML but I feel you would get a more positive response if your audience were not reading in the voice of Samuel L Jackson. **@tanvirshaikh** · 6 upvotes > [Just Fucking Use React](https://dly.to/KZ48IqLAcH1) **@fireton** · 3 upvotes > I agree with the message, not the tone though. 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