--- title: Qwen 3.8 Released : Better than Kimi K3? | daily.dev description: Alibaba has announced Qwen 3.8, a 2.4 trillion parameter LLM positioned as one of its most capable models, ranking just behind Claude Fable 5 in claimed... canonical: https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:site: @dailydotdev og:type: website og:site_name: daily.dev og:title: Qwen 3.8 Released : Better than Kimi K3? | daily.dev og:description: Alibaba has announced Qwen 3.8, a 2.4 trillion parameter LLM positioned as one of its most capable models, ranking just behind Claude Fable 5 in claimed... og:url: https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby og:image: https://api.daily.dev/og/posts/gSOqClOBy.png og:image:alt: Qwen 3.8 Released : Better than Kimi K3? og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 630 og:locale: en --- > ## Documentation Index > Fetch the complete documentation index at: https://daily.dev/llms.txt > Use this file to discover all available pages before exploring further. # Qwen 3.8 Released : Better than Kimi K3? **[Medium](https://daily.dev/sources/medium_js)** · 5 min read · 1 upvotes · 0 comments ## Summary Alibaba has announced Qwen 3.8, a 2.4 trillion parameter LLM positioned as one of its most capable models, ranking just behind Claude Fable 5 in claimed capability. A preview version (Qwen3.8-Max-Preview) is already accessible via Alibaba's Token Plan, Qoder, and QoderWork, with pricing tiers ranging from $6 to $68/month. The full open-weight release is forthcoming. Compared to Moonshot AI's Kimi K3 (2.8T parameters), Qwen 3.8 is smaller but will be open-weight, giving developers more flexibility for deployment, fine-tuning, and enterprise use. The post argues that open-weight accessibility may matter more than raw parameter count. ## Full article daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. Read it at the original source: ## Questions this post answers ### How many parameters does Alibaba's Qwen 3.8 model have? Qwen 3.8 has 2.4 trillion parameters, making it one of the largest AI models announced to date. It will eventually be released as an open-weight model, and a preview version called Qwen3.8-Max-Preview is already available through Alibaba's Token Plan, Qoder, and QoderWork. _Developers comparing frontier LLM releases can follow model announcements like this one on daily.dev._ ### How does Qwen 3.8 compare in size to Kimi K3? Kimi K3 from Moonshot AI is reported to have approximately 2.8 trillion parameters, about 400 billion more than Qwen 3.8's 2.4 trillion. Despite being smaller, Qwen 3.8 is positioned as more accessible since it will be released as an open-weight model, while Kimi K3 is primarily available through hosted services. _daily.dev helps developers weighing open-weight versus hosted models track releases like these._ ### What are the pricing tiers for Alibaba's Token Plan to access Qwen3.8-Max-Preview? The Lite Plan costs $6 per month with 2,500 credits every seven days, 700 credits every five hours, and supports 1-2 concurrent AI agents. The Standard Plan is $18 per month with 10,000 credits weekly and 3-4 agents. The Pro Plan is $68 per month with 40,000 credits weekly, 12,000 every five hours, and 6-8 concurrent agents. _Teams budgeting for AI agent workloads can track pricing changes across providers on daily.dev._ --- Tags: [#open-source](https://daily.dev/tags/open-source), [#llm](https://daily.dev/tags/llm), [#qwen](https://daily.dev/tags/qwen), [#alibaba](https://daily.dev/tags/alibaba), [#kimi](https://daily.dev/tags/kimi) [View this post on daily.dev](https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby) ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https://daily.dev/#organization","name":"daily.dev","url":"https://daily.dev","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://daily.dev/apple-touch-icon.png","width":180,"height":180},"sameAs":["https://twitter.com/dailydotdev","https://github.com/dailydotdev","https://www.linkedin.com/company/daily-dev-ltd"]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https://daily.dev/#website","url":"https://daily.dev","name":"daily.dev","publisher":{"@id":"https://daily.dev/#organization"},"potentialAction":{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https://daily.dev/search?q={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}}]} {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"TechArticle","headline":"Qwen 3.8 Released : Better than Kimi K3?","url":"https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby"},"datePublished":"2026-07-22T17:24:45.707Z","dateModified":"2026-09-14T06:51:45.392Z","description":"Alibaba has announced Qwen 3.8, a 2.4 trillion parameter LLM positioned as one of its most capable models, ranking just behind Claude Fable 5 in claimed...","image":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/posts/995a077b17b9ea8eec8b03635af3f19a?_a=AQAEuop","thumbnailUrl":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto/v1/posts/995a077b17b9ea8eec8b03635af3f19a?_a=AQAEuop","isAccessibleForFree":true,"articleSection":"Medium","inLanguage":"en","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"daily.dev","url":"https://daily.dev","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://daily.dev/apple-touch-icon.png","width":180,"height":180}},"author":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Medium","logo":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/t_logo,f_auto/v1/logos/medium","url":"https://daily.dev/sources/medium_js"},"commentCount":0,"discussionUrl":"https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby","interactionStatistic":[{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"LikeAction"},"userInteractionCount":1},{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"CommentAction"},"userInteractionCount":0}],"keywords":"open-source,llm,qwen,alibaba,kimi","timeRequired":"PT5M"} {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"BreadcrumbList","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https://daily.dev"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Medium","item":"https://daily.dev/sources/medium_js"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":3,"name":"Qwen 3.8 Released : Better than Kimi K3?"}]} {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"FAQPage","@id":"https://daily.dev/posts/qwen-3-8-released-better-than-kimi-k3--gsoqcloby#faq","mainEntity":[{"@type":"Question","name":"How many parameters does Alibaba's Qwen 3.8 model have?","acceptedAnswer":{"@type":"Answer","text":"Qwen 3.8 has 2.4 trillion parameters, making it one of the largest AI models announced to date. 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