--- title: The era of the Small Giant with Damien Tanner (Changelog... description: Damien Tanner, founder of Pusher and now building Layercode, discusses the fundamental shift in software development driven by AI agents. He argues that... canonical: https://daily.dev/posts/the-era-of-the-small-giant-with-damien-tanner-changelog-interviews-673--m7tfqxvft twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:site: @dailydotdev og:type: website og:site_name: daily.dev og:title: The era of the Small Giant with Damien Tanner (Changelog Interviews #673) | daily.dev og:description: Damien Tanner, founder of Pusher and now building Layercode, discusses the fundamental shift in software development driven by AI agents. He argues that... og:url: https://daily.dev/posts/the-era-of-the-small-giant-with-damien-tanner-changelog-interviews-673--m7tfqxvft og:image: https://api.daily.dev/og/posts/m7TFqXvFT.png og:image:alt: The era of the Small Giant with Damien Tanner (Changelog Interviews #673) og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 630 og:locale: en --- > ## Documentation Index > Fetch the complete documentation index at: https://daily.dev/llms.txt > Use this file to discover all available pages before exploring further. # The era of the Small Giant with Damien Tanner (Changelog Interviews #673) **[Changelog](https://daily.dev/sources/changelog)** · 75 min read · 2 upvotes · 0 comments ## Summary Damien Tanner, founder of Pusher and now building Layercode, discusses the fundamental shift in software development driven by AI agents. He argues that traditional SaaS is dying because AI agents don't need human-centric UIs—they can generate custom software on-demand and perform work autonomously. Tanner shares his experience building a custom CRM with Claude Code in minutes, then realizing the AI could do the actual sales work itself. He explores how this changes development practices like code review, suggesting teams without legacy processes move significantly faster. Layercode provides real-time voice infrastructure for AI agents, handling the complex streaming pipeline from speech-to-text to LLM processing to text-to-speech with sub-second latency using Cloudflare Workers. The conversation covers the transition from Web 2.0 developer tools to an era where small teams can build giant products, and where every user becomes a developer through natural language interfaces. ## Full article daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. 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