--- title: The WordPress ecosystem has lost its mind… | daily.dev description: The post discusses escalating drama in the WordPress ecosystem involving Matt Mullenweg, Automattic, and WP Engine. Triggered by Automattic's demand for... canonical: https://daily.dev/posts/the-wordpress-ecosystem-has-lost-its-mind--j992wvxiw twitter:card: summary_large_image twitter:site: @dailydotdev og:type: website og:site_name: daily.dev og:title: The WordPress ecosystem has lost its mind… | daily.dev og:description: The post discusses escalating drama in the WordPress ecosystem involving Matt Mullenweg, Automattic, and WP Engine. Triggered by Automattic's demand for... og:url: https://daily.dev/posts/the-wordpress-ecosystem-has-lost-its-mind--j992wvxiw og:image: https://api.daily.dev/og/posts/J992WvxiW.png og:image:alt: The WordPress ecosystem has lost its mind… og:image:width: 1200 og:image:height: 630 og:locale: en --- > ## Documentation Index > Fetch the complete documentation index at: https://daily.dev/llms.txt > Use this file to discover all available pages before exploring further. # The WordPress ecosystem has lost its mind… **[Fireship](https://daily.dev/sources/fireship)** · 7 min read · 1191 upvotes · 60 comments ## Summary The post discusses escalating drama in the WordPress ecosystem involving Matt Mullenweg, Automattic, and WP Engine. Triggered by Automattic's demand for royalties from WP Engine, the conflict has led to legal battles, public controversies, and significant community backlash. The detailed timeline reveals conflicts over trademark usage, financial contributions to the WordPress community, and accusations of improper business practices, significantly impacting WordPress users and developers. ## Full article daily.dev links to this article rather than hosting it. Read it at the original source: ## Community discussion Top comments from developers on daily.dev. **@isaacmathew** · 51 upvotes > Best ad for daily.dev, the only ad i have seen twice 😆 ☀️🤝 **@anthonycolas** · 28 upvotes > Who are here on daily.dev thanks to this video? lol **@hackleberryjay** · 11 upvotes > I don't have time to argue, I only have time to work. For a few years of trying to learn coding (and cybersecurity recently), I have always turned to WordPress to build my customers' websites, which is what I survive on. > > As I type I am rounding up one of such websites. I don't think open source is slavery. If the user makes money from their tool, why shouldn't they also make money? Imagine what your life would have been like if WordPress wasn't built. > > WordPress (Automaticc) has done so much for us, and they have every right to tell a company that makes itself look like them to woo... **@saurabhgaikwad** · 9 upvotes > Fireship brought me here..to suffer..😆 **@paschall** · 5 upvotes > LOL Controvery.dev ## Similar posts on daily.dev - [Don’t just attend KubeCon \+ CloudNativeCon, Merge Forward your experience\!](https://daily.dev/posts/don-t-just-attend-kubecon-cloudnativecon-merge-forward-your-experience--l0rpp73x8) · CNCF · 1 upvotes · 0 comments - [Announcing H2 2026 KCDs](https://daily.dev/posts/announcing-h2-2026-kcds-m96goajm1) · CNCF · 1 upvotes · 0 comments - [Two months of Open Community Groups](https://daily.dev/posts/two-months-of-open-community-groups-asf52zhbs) · CNCF · 0 upvotes · 0 comments - [CNCF Unveils Schedule for KubeCon \+ CloudNativeCon Europe 2026](https://daily.dev/posts/cncf-unveils-schedule-for-kubecon-cloudnativecon-europe-2026-ikhcoa5cb) · CNCF · 2 upvotes · 0 comments - [CNCF Debuts KubeCon \+ CloudNativeCon Japan 2026 Schedule](https://daily.dev/posts/cncf-debuts-kubecon-cloudnativecon-japan-2026-schedule-xp5pyudub) · CNCF · 1 upvotes · 0 comments --- Tags: [#webdev](https://daily.dev/tags/webdev), [#open-source](https://daily.dev/tags/open-source), [#wordpress](https://daily.dev/tags/wordpress) [View this post on daily.dev](https://daily.dev/posts/the-wordpress-ecosystem-has-lost-its-mind--j992wvxiw) ```json {"@context":"https://schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https://daily.dev/#organization","name":"daily.dev","url":"https://daily.dev","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","url":"https://daily.dev/apple-touch-icon.png","width":180,"height":180},"sameAs":["https://twitter.com/dailydotdev","https://github.com/dailydotdev","https://www.linkedin.com/company/daily-dev-ltd"]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https://daily.dev/#website","url":"https://daily.dev","name":"daily.dev","publisher":{"@id":"https://daily.dev/#organization"},"potentialAction":{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https://daily.dev/search?q={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}}]} {"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"TechArticle","headline":"The WordPress ecosystem has lost its mind…","url":"https://daily.dev/posts/the-wordpress-ecosystem-has-lost-its-mind--j992wvxiw","mainEntityOfPage":{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https://daily.dev/posts/the-wordpress-ecosystem-has-lost-its-mind--j992wvxiw"},"datePublished":"2024-10-11T16:22:14.679Z","dateModified":"2024-10-12T10:55:42.553Z","description":"The post discusses escalating drama in the WordPress ecosystem involving Matt Mullenweg, Automattic, and WP Engine. 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For a few years of trying to learn coding (and cybersecurity recently), I have always turned to WordPress to build my customers’ websites, which is what I survive on.\nAs I type I am rounding up one of such websites. I don’t think open source is slavery. If the user makes money from their tool, why shouldn’t they also make money? Imagine what your life would have been like if WordPress wasn’t built.\nWordPress (Automaticc) has done so much for us, and they have every right to tell a company that makes itself look like them to woo customers, to pay up or at least give back to the community.\nThe world is very twisted in its handling of conflicts lately. Hardly does anyone do critical thinking in a conflict, they just go with what the internet says.\nI honestly thought all this while that WP Engine was affiliated to Automaticc. I use NameCheap and Hostinger, and I do not see Automaticc having any problems with them. It’s all perception, WP engine is a big business that understands this.\nJust the name “WP” has given them such a massive edge.\nTo the WordPress developers talking nonsense, you owe your current livelihood to the hard work of the guys at Automaticc, stop being petty and move your clients to another platform, or build your tool. ooh! or “just fork it” if you have enough coding power and knowledge to handle that (writing your updates, building your plugins, knowing enough cybersecurity to write security updates as well).","datePublished":"2024-10-12T14:21:00.375Z","url":"https://daily.dev/posts/J992WvxiW#c-400PhwJ0H","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Joey","url":"https://daily.dev/hackleberryjay","image":"https://media.daily.dev/image/upload/s--O0TOmw4y--/f_auto/v1715772965/public/noProfile"},"interactionStatistic":{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"LikeAction"},"userInteractionCount":11}},{"@type":"Comment","text":"Fireship brought me here…to suffer…😆","datePublished":"2024-10-12T08:28:25.187Z","url":"https://daily.dev/posts/J992WvxiW#c-jY6LxfoaG","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"Saurabh Gaikwad","url":"https://daily.dev/saurabhgaikwad","image":"https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a/ACg8ocKfFnwLyMj2yyqm-nDNafTpmgeb-8vR-Ak8x75G_7ko__YgGtQ=s96-c"},"interactionStatistic":{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"LikeAction"},"userInteractionCount":9}},{"@type":"Comment","text":"LOL Controvery.dev","datePublished":"2024-10-11T16:39:15.833Z","url":"https://daily.dev/posts/J992WvxiW#c-NYLrOGHrK","author":{"@type":"Person","name":"PASCHAL","url":"https://daily.dev/paschall","image":"https://avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/122734545?v=4"},"interactionStatistic":{"@type":"InteractionCounter","interactionType":{"@type":"LikeAction"},"userInteractionCount":5}}]} ```